Amazons International # 22 ************************** Topics: Icehawk: Amazon Art Thomas: Re: Amazon Art Thomas: FTP site for Amazons International Jamie: What do Amazons look for in men? Thomas: Linda Hamilton Ed: Greetings from Down Under Mike: Erotica: Amanda & Mike II ************************************************************** Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 07:48:22 EST From: Icehawk Subject: Amazon Art There is a 1993 calender out from the TSR Role-Playing games company which is titled 'Women of Fantasy'. It has 13 of incredible paintings of some serious Amazons. Some are very trim, others quite muscular, but all are obviously people with great drive and presence. I highly recommend this calender. Several of the paintings are by an artist named Brom. His stuff is absolutely fantastic! He is the first fantasy artist to match Boris Vallejo in skill and style, in my opinion. His works are not as glossy looking as Boris' stuff. Brom's art is less bright, but quite powerful. His artwork depicts some of the most well muscled men and women I've ever seen in paintings and illustrations. Here's the address for TSR: TSR, Inc. P.O. Box 756 Lake Geneva, WI 53147 I suggest you write for a catalog, but if your local bookstore carries TSR stuff, the ordering number is #8893, and the calender costs $9.95. Not only is the Women of Fantasy calender absolutely spectacular, but it is surprisingly inexpensive. Icehawk ================================================================== See the white light/The light within/Be your own disciple Fan the spark of Will/For all of us waiting/Our kingdom will come! Manowar KINGS OF METAL ================================================================== From: Thomas Gramstad Subject: Re: Amazon Art I'll soon have that calendar... I've obtained the TSR toll-free phone number and their fax number: Their toll-free 800 number is: (800) 372-4667 (NB: Only if you're in the US or Canada) Fax: (1-414) 248-0389. I've come across Boris Vallejo's 1993 Mythology calendar. For each month this calendar features a mythological monster and one or more more or less Amazonian women; some are really built, others just trim. Some are in control, some are in battle, and some are shackled. I don't like all the motives, but it's worth checking out. Recently I came across Larry Elmore's works; there are two collections of black-and-white posters, titled _Silver and Steel_ 1 and 2. All the posters feature armed and trim (but not built) warrior women in a fantasy landscape. I have mixed feelings about the first collection; some of the works there simply look too much like pin-up models placed in an "exotic" environment; not so much by virtue of naked flesh as by virtue of body postures. The second collection is much better, the women there are believeable warriors, and they have strong faces and postures. I also bought a big poster in color by Elmore featuring an Amazon and an old yoda-like creature/traveler companion looking thoughtfully down a valley at the sunset. Very nice colors too. I'd be interested in further information about Larry Elmore and his works, if anyone is familiar with them. ************************************************************** From: Thomas Gramstad Subject: FTP site for Amazons International By courtesy of Paul Southworth , the Amazons International archive is now available by anonymous FTP. That is, all previous issues, updated versions of information files etc., are available from these two FTP sites: ftp.css.itd.umich.edu red.css.itd.umich.edu in /poli/Amazons.Intl If for some reason you can't get the archives from there you can of course still get them from me. ************************************************************** From: Thomas Gramstad Subject: Linda Hamilton By courtesy of Steinar Bang, here is an address for contacting Linda Hamilton: Linda Hamilton c/o Triad Artists 10100 Santa Monica Blvd. 16th Floor, Los Angeles CA 90067, USA ************************************************************** From: gairns@ccrs.emr.ca (Jamie Gairns) Subject: What do Amazons look for in men? Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:03:24 EST I have a question that I'd like to ask. It is sort of odd, but hey ... How do Amazonian women view men? By this I mean, how about taking a poll to find out what Amazonian women look for in men. Do they seek a physical equal, dominant or submissive? Not really sexually, but more in terms of a 'lifestyle', if you will. It is obvious what the male subscribers seek (being one myself ;-) ), but what do the women who subscribe here look for? Muscular men? Independent? Emotionally stable? Dominant? Submissive? Eclectic? Conservative? Liberal? Communist? ;-) It could be anonymous, of course. I am just rather interested in human relationships. Cheers James Gairns BTW ... I have a photo of myself scanned. I assume, since I haven't heard back from people about having their photo scanned, that it wasn't a popular idea. No matter, just a thought! ;-) I'm just feeling talkative tonight. ************************************************************** Date: Mon, 30 Nov 92 12:26:03 +1100 From: edwardw@pandc.rta.oz.au (Ed Wilkinson) Subject: Greetings from Down Under Thanks for the back issues -- very interesting! There's a lot of good stuff. Here's a wee intro article for the mailing list: Greetings from Down Under! I've just joined AI and am impressed with the info. Just wish there were a few more Amazons down here in Oz. There's a really bad stereotype here and in New Zealand that most of the guys try to live up to: rugby playing, beer drinking, never show your feelings, etc. So the women most valued(?) are those who are quiet, submissive and know their place. It's a crazy situation -- no wonder many (most?) women here aren't happy with their menfolk! A couple of notes on a few back articles: yeah, I agree WRT women's bodybuilding -- stick to the muscular look. It's a problem Bev Francis has been trying to deal with for a while. Leave the `mainstream' look to the Ms. Fitness comps, and Miss World, etc. WRT male/female characteristics, we all need to look more towards balance, e.g. having both male and female character traits. As the Chinese might have it, less Yang (current male competition, aggression, etc) and more Yin (female cooperation, empathy, compassion, etc). As usual, balance is what's needed, by both male and females. Maybe that's why such films as `Ghost', `Croc Dundee' and `Pretty Woman' were so successful -- they showed leading men who were also gentle, softer, more fully human than many of the Rambo characters we see so often. Quick bio: I'm just a guy who'd love to meet a few more Amazons in life. How can any relationship which is not based upon respect, equality and consideration possibly provide any lasting rewards? Strong, assertive, confident women are great to be around! Who needs an insecure frightened person who just agrees with you all the time? Those people (women AND men) are just boring -- give me an Amazon anytime! When you are interacting with an Amazon, you know that she won't put up with any bull, that she'll only spend time with you if SHE wants to. What a great basis for a relationship! Sorry if this posting is a bit random. Guess I've been starved of Amazon company for too long :-( Ed p.s. love to hear from any Amazons out there! p.p.s. wasn't `Thelma and Louise' great? Ed Wilkinson RTA, Sydney, Australia edwardw@xwdev.pandc.rta.oz.au ************************************************************** From: Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:23:24 PDT Subject: Amanda & Mike II: Meeting Amanda [Mike's first Amanda story may be found in Amazons International # 15. One subscriber has suggested that I issue a sort of "call for papers" on the topic of erotic Amazon fiction. This is an interesting thought, not only in the perspective of joyful and arousing reading, but as a means of furthering a reunion of physicality and sexuality in women. The Amazon image is often associated with chastity because female sexuality is seen as a sex-determined submission or surrender; thus the unconquered and self-determined Amazon appears to be asexual. See my article in Amazons International # 17 for an elaboration on that topic. Anyway, judging by the quality of this and previous erotic fiction in Amazons International, I will gladly encourage more submissions along those lines. -- Ed.] "Meeting Amanda" Amanda smiled across the room at the stranger. She knew he hadn't been able to take his eyes off her all night. Was it her height or her red hair that caught his attention? It really didn't matter. The cocktail party was boring and flirting with a handsome stranger seemed a great way to pass the obligatory time till she could excuse herself without annoying her employer. Emboldened by her smile, he made his way across the room. "Care to dance?" She couldn't help but grin. This fellow had guts. Even men who were taller than she often seemed too intimidated by her height to approach her. "Sure!" They wandered over to the end of the room where just a few couples danced. He put his arm around her and led easily. She knew he was attracted to her, yet he seemed very comfortable. As they danced, they chatted enough to exchange names and for her to find out he was a friend of one of the guys from the art department. When the music ended, he seemed reluctant to release her so she lingered in his arms. The next song was faster, not really designed for the slow dancing that he seemed to prefer. Mike started to let her go. "Maybe we should sit..." Before he could get away, she grabbed him and swept him up off his feet. Amanda had always had a mischievous streak, and somehow, she sensed this handsome gentleman wouldn't be too embarrassed by being danced across the room like a rag doll. Mike did blush a little, but he nuzzled his face against her neck and held tightly to her. She could feel her breasts flattened against his chest. They breathed as one, bodies twirling to the music. There was a crowd gathering to watch. Amanda already knew her fellow-workers called her "the Amazon" and "Wonder Woman" behind her back. This would only add to her reputation. "Hang on tight, cute stuff!" she whispered in his ear. He gasped as she spun him around, then bent him backward, leaning down to press her lips against his. They were both breathless when she set him back down on his feet. The crowd applauded. "I need a drink," Mike muttered, reddening at the attention they were receiving. She thought he might be trying to make a graceful retreat, so she didn't do anything as he turned towards the bar. He looked back at her, "Can I buy you a drink?" ******* "I don't normally bring strangers home." Amanda felt awkward all of a sudden. She'd had so much fun with Mike, that it seemed normal to ask him up to her place after he'd driven her home. Now, though, she realized that she knew very little about him. "You're not an axe murderer, are you?" "No," he answered, then grinned, "would that worry Wonder Woman?" "So, your friend's been talking about me!" "Just a little, nothing bad," Mike answered placatingly. "Tell me what else he said!" "Nothing, really," Mike looked up at her with a worried expression. "Tell me or I'll tickle it out of you!" His face broke into a relieved laugh. "Not on your life!" He backed away, slowly, but she grabbed at his side, her fingers wiggling threateningly. He dodged her by twisting and she ended up wrapping her arms around his waist and wrestling him to the floor. She sat on top of him, legs stradding his crotch so that she was really just kneeling over him. "Tell me!" "Never!" he shouted playfully. Her fingers grazed his sides and he tried not to laugh. Finally, he couldn't stand it any longer and started wriggling beneath her, trying to get away. "Stop," he pleaded. She could feel a hardness in his crotch beneath her thighs that excited her. "Tell me what your friend said!" "Not even if you bring out your golden lasso," Mike managed to quip between giggles. Soon he was gasping for breath, and still pleading for her to stop. "Hmmm..." she sat up, tired of the silliness and put her hands on her hips. "I guess I'll have to find another way to get you to talk." She ground her crotch down on his bulge. The silky fabric of her panties slid easily across his fly. "Ohhhhh..." he moaned, "I'm weakening." Feeling him growing even harder, she smiled. "Something's not getting weak." He reddened again, and she found that his reaction excited her all the more. "Get that tongue busy," she told him, "or I might have to find something else for it to do." "Honest, he didn't say anything bad. Just told me your office nickname. He knows I like tall women." He colored a little more. "Oh, gee," she said, grinding down on him more, then leaning forward to push her elbow into his chest and prop her chin on her hand. She was looking directly into his eyes now. "I thought it was my red hair that you liked." "I like that, too," he grinned. "I can even tell that it's natural." She giggled, taken by surprise by his remark. "So, you don't need to do any sort of inspection to verify that?" She leaned down even more, putting her arms on either side of his head and rubbing her breasts against his chest. Her lips were closing in on his. He swallowed hard, "I wouldn't mind..." She kissed him, hard, thrusting her tongue between his lips and smothering whatever it was he'd been going to say. Mike reached up and embraced her. He pulled her down even harder, pushing his body up to meet hers. They continued kissing, both hungry with passion. Amanda moved enough to get her hands in between them so that she could start unbuttoning his shirt. He released her and let her sit up a little. When Mike moved his hands to cup her breasts, she grabbed his wrists. "Be good!" She pinned his wrists against the floor above his head with one hand while her other hand continued to bare his chest. Once she'd unbuttoned his shirt, she pulled the ends out of his pants and spread it open so that she could begin at his neck and then begin nibbling her way down his chest. When her grip on his wrists relaxed, Mike made a brash attempt to break free and roll her over, but she quickly wrestled him back onto the floor. "Do that again, and you might get spanked!" Mike looked at her skeptically, but he didn't try to fight her after that. Instead, he moaned appreciatively as she teased his nipples with her tongue, then moved down to delve into his naval. He squirmed, and she realized that a new position was called for if she was going to keep him in line. Quickly, she turned around so that her knees flanked his head. "Oh," he gasped. She knew he was enjoying the splendor of her bright red pubic hair curling around the leg bands of her white-with-yellow flowered panties. Something, maybe his fingertip, maybe his tongue, lightly traced the line of her pussylips through the fabric. "Look, but don't touch!" she snarled playfully over her shoulder. To add emphasis to her words, sit lifted his bottom off the floor and gave him a sharp whack. His only response was a disappointed sigh as he obeyed. She slowly unzipped his pants, rubbing the bulge with one hand. Her own moisture had dampened the fly. Amanda blushed, realizing that it had been a long time since anyone had excited her this much. Was she going too fast? Was she giving him the wrong impression? She pulled his pants down just enough to reveal his pubic hair. As she hesitated, she pressed her cheek against the silky fur. How could she end this gracefully, without going so far that he'd not want to see her again? Finally, she spread open his fly, but left his bulge covered by his underwear. She licked and mouthed the bulge through the soft cotton till he groaned and she felt it quivering as sticky warmth soaked into the material. Turning around and lying beside him on the plush carpet, she gathered him into her arms and held him tight. When he'd recovered, he pressed his mouth against her and kissed her with such a passion that Amanda knew she'd made the right choice. This was just the beginning of a long and happy relationship. ********************************************************* * Amazons International: thomas@smaug.uio.no * * Thomas Gramstad, editor * ********************************************************* "A Hard Woman is Good to Find" -- The Valkyries