Amazons International # 9 ------------------------- Topics: Chuck: Arm wrestling Rich: Bio Larry: Giant Amazons Thomas: Giantess Amazon - A True Story ********************************************************************** From: v109kjpl@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Charles F. Waterman) Subject: Arm wrestling I'm very interested in ARM WRESTLING, and any women out there who enjoy the sport either in fun or competitively, either with other women or with men if you are truly amazons, please drop me a line. Maybe we can have a e-mail armwrestling match, and you can see if you're strong enough to defeat a man who's not the type to just meekly submit, but will admit he enjoys testing his strength against a strong woman who isn't afraid of a challenge. If you want, I might be able to meet you and arrange a real match with you if you want; but primarily I'd just like to communicate with any woman who is interested in arm or wrist wrestling! Chuck ********************************************************************** Subject: bio for Amazons list Date: Mon, 22 Jul 91 14:14:32 CDT From: Rich Thomson First, let me introduce myself. Although my parents named me Richard, I prefer the shorter "Rich". I stand 5'10, and weigh about 145 lbs distributed in what I call a "runner's build" -- strong legs, muscular butt and a slim torso. I have long brown hair cut in a mohawk, brown eyes, wire-framed glasses. I'm 26 and moved out to Utah in '88 to attend grad school. I'm originally from the least coast (Delaware). Right now I'm living a dual life: software engineer and grad student. Hopefully I'll be able to finish up my research in the next year and a half and then I can be software engineer and professional recreationalist :-). My sister was a world-renowned 100 m hurdler in amateur track & field when I was growing up. I would often go with her while she practiced. Like everybody else in our family, she had strong legs, but even moreso since she worked so hard to keep them in competition shape. She used to let me shave her legs, which I always got a kick out of because they were so muscular. [BTW, my sister is 12 years older than I am] My dad was her coach and well-known in the global community of amateur athletics. Well-known enough that at times he was the chosen coach/representative for the US team in international competitions, getting trips to China (1981), USSR (1973), Africa, etc. Because of this small circle of fame in the family, I got to attend many track meets (which eventually became too dull) and was often surrounded by athletic women. I think this may be where my strong attraction for good legs and butt may come from. Although I myself am amazed by the wide range of physical combinations I find attractive (maybe I'm just terminally horny? :), I am always attracted to a nice set of muscular legs and butt, along with a matching torso. I do like wrestling with my lovers, which I guess is a part of it. Now, I'm not talking about championship body-builders, but well-proportioned and toned muscles. I have watched some of the body-building competitions on TV and I think that is a little too much for me. I like more the shape of the women on the aerobics programs (yes, I know Cory Everson does (did?) compete in body-building, but I don't think her features are too exaggerated for my taste). Myself, I like to go hiking, spelunking and mountain biking to keep my legs and butt toned and tight the way I like them. I've never had the patience for regimented regular exercise, but maybe what I'm lacking is a partner? Anyway, I think that the early connection with track & field is the real origin of my interest in the 'amazon' woman. I definately like a woman who takes charge of her own life and is her own person and the big-titted blonde beach bimbo doesn't often hold up to that ideal of self-realization. While I'm babbling on here, I wonder if anyone else on this list is going to be attending SIGGRAPH next week in Vegas? If so, it might be a good opportunity to meet, have a drink, hit a party, or whatever. [Too late for that I'm afraid. Sorry. -- Thomas] Its always nice to put a human face on an e-mail address when you can get the chance. [Agreed. I know of mailing lists and even newsgroups where people organize real-life physical cons for the participants. Maybe we can arrange an Amazoncon when we become many enough or concentrated enough. -- Thomas] -- Rich ********************************************************************** From: LarryC@cup.portal.com Subject: Giant Amazons In my fantasies of amazons, I've amplified the theme of superior female mass and strength to the scale of giantesses - women who are a minimum of seven feet tall, up to seventy feet! I'd like to describe the development of my interest in giantesses over the years, and also explore the theme of giantesses in modern pop culture. I became aware of my fondness for giant females as puberty hit. The first sign occurred as I was reading an otherwise innocent fairy tale written by E. Nesbit called "Melisande: or, Long and Short Division". In it, a princess is cursed with baldness from birth, but gets a chance to remedy this with another wish when she grows up. Unfortunately, she wishes that her hair would grow an inch every day, and grow twice as fast each time it was cut. After a few weeks, her hair is growing so abundantly, that it becomes a national resource. A prince solves the hair growth problem in a clever way, but with the side-effect of having the princess grow instead! It was at this point in the story that I became acutely aware of one of my first erections, which didn't go away until after I finished the story ( PS. The princess regained her normal size without any more unusual hair growth, and lived with the prince happilyeverafter ). Further sexual imprinting occurred as a titanic Allison Hayes strode across fields and tore the roofs off buildings in a late night TV showing of an otherwise wretched movie called "Attack of the Fifty-Foot Woman". My younger (and hornier) self was willing to accept bad special effects and props which I wince/laugh at now ( there are some scenes where you can actually see through her! ). Finally, there was a comic book published by DC Comics called "The Doom Patrol". One of the members of the Doom Patrol was Rita Farr, a stunt woman who inhaled some exotic thermal vent fumes which gave her the ability to shrink or grow all or part of her body. Of course,I bought every issue! ( The series has returned, but without Rita ... I haven't bought an issue yet ). By this time ( approx. 14 years old, in the late sixties ), I was always aware of any reference to tall/giant women in my cultural environment. For example ... The plot device of exotic fumes used in the "Doom Patrol" comic book was also used to explain Dorothy Provine's sudden growth in her title role as "The Thirty Foot Bride of Candy Rock". This movie is probably the answer a trivia game question - "What was the last movie that Lou Costello, of the Abbot and Costello comedy team, acted in?" . As you can tell by the casting, a comedy. The B.F. Goodrich Radial Age Giantess. She was the goddess-like personification of the road handling abilities of the then-new radial tire. As I remember, she was about 100 ft tall and wore a metallic gold sequined mini-dress. One of her TV commercials had her picking up a car to carry it to safety around a rockslide. She was satirized on the back cover of the Oct. 1968 issue of MAD magazine; it showed an irate Goodrich executive expelling her from company headquarters; as she tearfully leaves, she's cradling a giant green baby in her arms (HO!HO!HO!). "The Village of the Giants", a movie starring Tommy Kirk, little Ronnie (Opie) Howard, and video popstar Toni Basil, in which a co-ed group of post-juvenile delinquents ingest a compound which makes then burst out of their clothes as they grow into thirty-foot troublemakers. A favorite scene had a giantess forcing a normal-sized guy to 'dance' with her by making him hang on to the straps of her improvised bikini top as she ponderously sways to mid-sixties british invasion rock-n-roll. [Actually, that reminds me -- never mind, I'll write a message of my own... -- Thomas] In a case of 'if you can't raise the bridge, lower the river', "The Incredible Shrinking Man", both the movie and the original book it was based on. A very good movie; but the book was able to go into more detail about the hopes and fears of a man, Scott Carey, who begins to shrink 1/7th of an inch a day. The main contrast between the book and the movie was the ability of the author ( Richard Matheson ) to explore the sexual, romantic, and social isolation experienced by Scott as gradually shrinks away from the world of his fellow humans. I don't want to take up too much space, so I'll end it here. If anybody's interested in more conversation about giantesses, email me at: LarryC@cup.portal.com <<< In the San Francisco/South Bay area >>> ********************************************************************* From: Thomas Subject: Giantess Amazon -- A True Story (and more) Larry, you're going to like this. Tallness isn't my primary arousal cue, but it is a factor. It's sort of concrete symbolic isn't it -- somebody who is tall is probably strong; somebody you have to look up at may be worth looking up to. Tallness suggests authority. (By the way, one of our members has told me about "The Tallest Woman of the World" -- her name's Sandy Allen, she's 230 cm tall (according to my calculations, that is slightly more than 90 and a half inches, i.e. 7 feet 6 inches! If my memory serves me correctly, that's 2 inches more than She-Hulk...), she's born in 1956 and she works for the Guinness book of Records...) I'd like to see the gender role discussion rolling on. I plan to write more about it, but for now I will restrict myself to two issues, namely tallness and gender roles in dancing. I like to dance, but every kind of structured dance that's got a name seems to stress male domination -- the male is supposed to initiate the dance, lead, control it. Does anybody else find this tiresome, limited or even downright demented?? Does anyone know of dances that are either based on equality or even female domination/role reversal? Larry's message reminded me of something that happened to me a long time ago. Must have been the first year in college or thereabout. I was at this big costume party, wandering around when I saw a tall woman with short, black hair (real black -- not brown and not dyed). She wore a dress that displayed her arms and shoulders. Strong arms. Not very defined or sculptured, but strong. I didn't make these evaluations very consciously -- I wasn't very articulate about my sexual values at the time. I just sort of drifted subconsciously into her vicinity. As it came to happen, she, I and her two female friends came to eat together at the same table. During the conversation she suddenly grabbed at my mask, she wanted to see what I looked like. Instinctively, I grabbed her wrist in an attempt to stop her, I wanted to save this moment till midnight. However, I couldn't prevent her hand from seizing and lifting my mask -- not even slow her down. She was that much stronger. Later she wanted to dance with me. I made some hesitating gesture, and she grabbed my wrist and pulled me out of the chair. There was absolutely no chance of breaking free -- not that I tried very hard, nor did I want to. There was this tremendous momentum, you see, when she jerked me out of the chair. At the dance floor she kept my hand in a firm grip. It wasn't a conscious attempt to dominate me, it was just her natural way of doing things. So I leaned close to her and buried my face in the area between her shoulder and her neck, slow-dancing, still grabbed by the wrist and let her lead. That's the essential part of the story, really. The three of them left early; they invited me along, but all three were heavy smokers and I'm bothered by smoke. So I declined and stayed with some friends that I'd recognized after the masks were removed. Sometimes I wonder what came of her later. Oh well. By the way, some time ago I received the summer supply to the AM-FEM directory. One of the new entries was about an interesting-looking association, and I quote: BUILTMORE PRODUCTIONS P.O.Box 571 Santa Monica, CA 90406 Tel #(213)458-6360 (Specializing in a worldwide search & promotion of GIANT MUSCULAR AMAZONS, women of unbelievable stature, muscularity, & strength. Videos available! Please send $1 and a SASE for additional info. Giantesses welcome to apply) Till next time... (and now it's up to you when that's going to be, because I'm up to date in my Amazon International contributions file. So let's have more postings, more bios, more debate, more stories!) - Thomas ***************************************************************** * Amazons International: thomasg@ulrik.uio.no * * Thomas Gramstad, moderator * ***************************************************************** "A Hard Woman is Good to Find" -- The Valkyries