[Note: AI # 1 was just an old version of the intro file. -- Thomas]


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                Amazons International # 2
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Topics:   Keith: Bio
          Stormwind: Bio

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From: microsoft!keithro@cs.washington.edu
Date: Fri Apr 12 12:08:30 1991

I'd like to thank Thomas for starting this mailing list.  I've been
quietly obsessed by strong women and wrestling for as long as I've
been a sexual person.  My first sexual fantasies revolved around
wrestling with strong, powerful women.  It was only later that I
learned there were other fun things we could do as well :-)

The breadth of material available on this subject told me I couldn't
be alone in this obsession but only now do we have a forum where we
can openly share our experiences and our fantasies.  I look forward to
hearing from all of you.

Although I've wrestled with all my lovers, its only in the last year
that I've found a woman strong enough, competitive enough and
confident enough to make a truly challenging opponent.  To my great
delight, she has found that she enjoys our matches almost as much as I
do.  As you can well imagine, I'm madly in love with her.  Someone on
Usenet said, "There is no greater power than a shared fetish."

So let's hear from you.  What do you like?  What do you fantasize
about?  Do you like to watch or participate?  Do you have any favorite
bouts to recount?  What are your favorite videos, magazines, books?
What about female combat scenes in regular TV and movies?  There's
lots to talk about.

I've got some stories (both real and imagined) that I'll start posting
in the weeks to come.  Why not share one of yours today?

cheers,

keith.

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 14:07:50 PDT
From: amazon@inferno.esd.sgi.com (Stormwind)

i guess the best way to start this off
is to ask, what exactly is an amazon,
and why do i consider myself one?

most amazons are drawn (usually by boris
vallejo) as tawny muscular goddesses 
sporting very little clothing.  though
i'm tall, i'm definitely not tawny,
and i prefer my jeans to skimpy shreds
of cloth.  being a software engineer 
doesn't exactly lend itself towards 
having a lean physique either, but i'm
working on that part with running, swimming,
and basketball.

so aside from physique, what classifies
one as an amazon?  that's a much more
difficult question than would appear at
first glance.  i suppose that my own 
criteria for amazonness is the capability
to be self sufficient and non-dependant
on others, but most importantly is 
pursuing what one wants to do and the
willingness to challenge social norms
whilst doing so.

i don't consider myself to be expressly
"female".  my inner self is more androgenous,
an intellectual entity rather than a 
"female" or "male" entity.  i do not think
about things in terms of "ladies don't do
that" (a phrase my mom tried to use on me
upon being informed that i was going to
the madera warbird fly-in, and was going 
to try to pitch my tent under the wing of
a B-17).

this got started at an early age when 
a young boy informed me, "girls can't
play bagpipes!".  this irritated me so
much that i was determined to play him
into the ground, and proceeded to do so.
bagpipes are considered to be a men's
pursuit, and there are but a scant handful
of women on the west coast who have played
pipes for any length of time.  many of 
them were driven out of piping by the
very attitudes that challenged me to excell.

i also windsurf, whitewater raft, am
learning how to fly, and have just recently
joined an all-women's paintball team to
compete in two tournaments in the next
few months (paintball is like capure the
flag, except you play at long range by
tagging people out with paintguns).

one drawback to this is, of course, most
men are scared silly of a woman enjoying
herself on traditionally male turf.  fortunately,
my boyfriend has learned that my activities
are not to be construed as a challenge to
his maleness, but rather a pursuit of
happiness on my own behalf.  this has resulted
in many wonderful revelations for both of
us (i introduced him to whitewater, he
introduced me to magic) and has enriched both
of us.

			stormwind

			hell's amazon

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